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Post by sksfordman on Feb 1, 2010 0:20:35 GMT -6
Thanks for all the great info, I will put it to good use!!
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Post by fyimo on Feb 1, 2010 15:11:20 GMT -6
Well I look at it like the most important gun you own is your carry piece and the one for home defense if they are different. Those are the guns that can save your life and the lives of your family members. Anyway, Here's my two for carry Sig P228 9mm with 16 rounds and night sights S&W Model pre 36 made in 1953 Home defense Sig P226 40SW with 19 rounds of 40SW & night sights
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Post by sksfordman on Feb 1, 2010 18:48:02 GMT -6
Great looking firearms, Art. Are the night sights white, or are they light gathering material? How old are the 2 Sig P226, and P228. Art, Kevin, and anyone else who might know what a man with my build, and limitations. I need to know what kind of carrying system might work best for a Big, Portly, built man with very limited use of my shoulders, so carrying behind my back is out!! Any suggestions? Randy
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Post by ibugly on Feb 1, 2010 19:42:53 GMT -6
I would never carry one behind my back. You want it where you can see where it is at all times. Also if you are attacked it will likely be from behind you. Your type of clothing is also going to be a factor. I wear coveralls almost all the time so I carry mine in my pocket wrapped up in a wiping rag or cloth. This snugs it up tight in my pocket so it isn't apt to fall out and hides the outline of the gun as well. BTW when I carry that is the only thing in that pocket. Carry on your shooting hand side. If you do this just give a little more attention to oiling and wiping the gun down a little more frequent. I've carried that way for years with no problem.
Another option is a shoulder holster or a belt holster. What you always want to keep in mind is quick and least restricted accessibility but also concealment so people don't freak. If you're worried about the gun falling out of your pocket have some Velcro strips sewn in the pocket opening just make sure you can get your hand in fast. You don't have to Velcro the entire opening to secure the weapon to you in other words.
I like pocket carrying for another reason. It allows you to get your hands on the weapon in a circumstance you are uncomfortable with like a parking lot and some clown who despite your changing directs continues to approach you. A hand reaching in the pocket usually results in them changing directions. I think that has likely spared be some grief a couple of times. I also did this when I worked as a night clerk.
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Post by kg5388 on Feb 1, 2010 20:09:31 GMT -6
small of back carry is frowned upon nowadays and is even forbidden in some agencies.
fall backwards on your spine and you may have spinal damage.
also drawing the weapon is difficult and you have to sweep your body withe the muzzle to get into fire position.
pocket carry is good but it is can be hard to get to while seated in a car and you don't want to be pulling the gun out of your pocket to put it in the console and then back into your pocket.
you may freak someone out and repeated handling of the gun is when accidents happen.
I'm a little large and inside the waistband holsters aren't comfortable for me
I use a outside the belt holster with a good stiff belt or a good pocket holster or a fanny pack.
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Post by caretaker on Feb 1, 2010 21:13:53 GMT -6
I like a holster,concealed by flannel shirt,larget-shirt,flannel jacket,or sleeveless vest. Don`t like shovin pistol in waste band in front of pants. Pistol is to protect family jewels not put them in jepordy.
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Post by kg5388 on Feb 1, 2010 21:24:00 GMT -6
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Post by ibugly on Feb 1, 2010 22:08:19 GMT -6
Reminds me of a Trinity movie where he shoots a guy through a hole in the floor above him.
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Post by fyimo on Feb 2, 2010 13:15:27 GMT -6
Great looking firearms, Art. Are the night sights white, or are they light gathering material? How old are the 2 Sig P226, and P228. Art, Kevin, and anyone else who might know what a man with my build, and limitations. I need to know what kind of carrying system might work best for a Big, Portly, built man with very limited use of my shoulders, so carrying behind my back is out!! Any suggestions? Randy Both of the Sig's are mid 90's built and the P226 was a Michigan State Troopers gun so it was carried a lot and not shot much and I bought it from him off of Gunbroker for $500. When it came it had Grips with the Michigan State Police Emblems on both sides of it and while they looked cool they were to slim for my hands so I put the Sig wood grips on it because they fill my hand more. The frame of the gun was perfect but the slide had lots of holster wear so I sent it to Todd at Customized Creationz in Michigan and he refinished the slide with stainless colored cerakote. I bought the night sights (they glow green in the dark) and installed them as I have the Sig sight tool for installing and adjusting sights. I bought the Sig P228 as soon as I heard a shipment of Swiss Police trade ins were coming in and I called Dan's Sporting Goods and reserved one of the best grade he would have which was Very Good. When I called Dan he said he would pick me out a good one and he asked if I wanted one that looked pristine or one with some wear but was fired very little. I chose the perfect mechanicals over looks because it was going to be a carry gun anyway and would get lots of wear and tear. The factory night sights were very dim when I got it so I replaced them as soon as I got it. It's a tack driver and has a great DA/SA trigger pull. As far as carry goes I also agree that you should not carry one in the small of your back for the reasons mentioned already. I carry mine in a Don Hume Holster that fits high and tight on my strong side (Right) and I wear a shirt out over it. I also have a winter jacket with large pockets and a lot of times I just stick it in my coat pocket. I bought up a size in shirts so they are really loose fitting which helps a lot to and tight clothes make concealing a gun difficult. Sticking a gun in your pants in the front is only something they do in movies as besides possibility of separating the family jewels from your body it's difficult to get the gun out under stress and it has to be really uncomfortable when sitting. Randy, you just have to work out what's most the comfortable way to carry for you to carry and then do it. When we get our carry permit we all feel like everyone knows you have a gun on you and quite frankly most never will unless you are just sloppy about how you conceal it. On trips and when in the the woods I have a special black fanny pack I wear and I'm been in stores, food places and nobody has given me a second look. I have two friends that have this elastic waist band holster that they wear under the shirt and it has a built in holster that the gun is in. I haven't tried one but they seem to like them.
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Post by sksfordman on Feb 2, 2010 22:55:59 GMT -6
Thank you all, I'll be checking them out!! I have a friend at Gander Mountain, in Paducah, and he works in the firearms area there, as a manager. He'll let me try anything they have on for trial fit. I have a problem, or a potential one anyhow is, That I'm a heavy sweater and I will definitely be having to oil and clean the gun, and holster more than most folks.
John, I don't think I trust my self to carry in my pants pockets. I was shot, in an accident when I was 14 yr old. My brother who is 11 month younger than I, had been shooting a 22 stacked barreled 22 Derringer pistol, I came out of the house after hearing 2 shots fired, and thought he had fired his 2 rounds, and I reached in to take the pistol from him, and when I went to breech it open, it had a hairpin trigger, and bang, I had 4 gunshot wounds in my left hand, weaving between my palm, ring finger, and pinkie. I hurt, but the powder burn hurt worse than the wounds at the time. I'm so glad I wasn't shooting a 38, cause I wouldn't have had a rind finger, or pinkie finger on my left hand!!
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Post by kg5388 on Feb 3, 2010 9:01:40 GMT -6
a hammerless or bobbed hammer 38 in a good pocket holster that covers the entire trigger area is safe as you must pull the trigger to fire the gun. This is a gun that you can wear on a belt or in a pants pocket or a coat pocket it's hard to do that with my big 45
I have the titanium cylinder /aluminum alloy frame smith 38 and after 12 years of almost daily carry at work the right side is starting to look bad that as soon as I feel I can live without it a little while it's going to Todd so he can work his coating magic on it
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Post by sksfordman on Feb 3, 2010 21:54:32 GMT -6
I'm going over to Mom's tomorrow, and ask about dad's 2, 38 pistols. I'll take either of the pistols, although I'd love to have the older 38 Police special. It's not in perfect shape but it's not wore out either, and it belonged to my Papa, and my Dad!!
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Post by ibugly on Feb 4, 2010 2:55:46 GMT -6
Thank you all, I'll be checking them out!! I have a friend at Gander Mountain, in Paducah, and he works in the firearms area there, as a manager. He'll let me try anything they have on for trial fit. I have a problem, or a potential one anyhow is, That I'm a heavy sweater and I will definitely be having to oil and clean the gun, and holster more than most folks. John, I don't think I trust my self to carry in my pants pockets. I was shot, in an accident when I was 14 yr old. My brother who is 11 month younger than I, had been shooting a 22 stacked barreled 22 Derringer pistol, I came out of the house after hearing 2 shots fired, and thought he had fired his 2 rounds, and I reached in to take the pistol from him, and when I went to breech it open, it had a hairpin trigger, and bang, I had 4 gunshot wounds in my left hand, weaving between my palm, ring finger, and pinkie. I hurt, but the powder burn hurt worse than the wounds at the time. I'm so glad I wasn't shooting a 38, cause I wouldn't have had a rind finger, or pinkie finger on my left hand!! I wouldn't carry a semi that way without a holstered but I do carry a revolver like that. You'd about have to deliberately fire it or the ones I have anyway. I carried it about 14 hours today didn't have to take it out any. It's short enough so I don't have to take it out to drive. I used to carry it at work like that also. The only thing I would worry about is dropping it that's one reason why I wrap it. Wrapping doesn't interfere with my access to it either. You've just got to get something comfortable for you. Because I wear coveralls all the time though I don't have any other choice but my pocket.
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Post by sksfordman on Feb 5, 2010 22:18:34 GMT -6
Went to Bass pro shop in Nashville today, and checked out some pistols, and some holsters. My son went to Paducah, Ky, and bought a Smith And Wesson 38 stainless used. I'll be posting a pic of it tomorrow maybe!!
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